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Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:22
@Mandy7D7 that pilot was not a moron you are a moron if anything! there is nothing wrong with them! and they don’t boast about the jobs or throw it away, i know 3 pilots and not one of them boast they just get on with their lives. pilots don’t know better than their training rules otherwise they have just been able to get in a plane, no training and fly it. yes people have died to pilot error but we can’t rewind the past. and you can trust people to do their job!
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
What a complete moron for a pilot. What the hell is wrong with these people? They go through all the training, get paid the big bucks, boast constantly about their jobs then throw it all away because they think they know better then their training and rules. So many have died through needless error. You can’t trust anyone to do their job?
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
hearing about the frezzing water gives me goose bumps
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
the problem was, he either did not have any instruments….or he did not know how to use them….
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
The voice is not as attractive and thrilling as in the AIRCRASH INVESTIGATIONS by NAt Geo
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
now a days, you want the new pilots because they follow all the SOPs, unlike when you have a senior captain and jr fo, or senior captain and senior fo.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
I think that they should have one pilot with enough experience to flight the 737 noting that it was said both pilots had less then 3 yrs with the aircraft. It may not be always possible but they should try to have at least one pilot that is more experience then the other on all flights.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
ALSO! And old crash that haunted me at 9 years old to this day May 1979 DC-10 Flight 191..I was FURIOUS with all those pilots saying “I was in the sim and had no problem adjusting to the asymmetry after the engine came off.” Those two pilots had MASSIVE experience in the DC10 and flawless records (I hear they were among the best of the best in the DC10) but didnt have the 20/20 pre-loaded response ready and waiting. I’m sorry I had to vent on that one
That was a sad day had a friend on there
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
Isn’t JFK Jr. a classic case of inexperience and failure to obtain proper weather briefing? I am a meteorologist not a pilot so I know what he flew into but not how he reacted. A pilot friend of mine told me he likely was using his eyes not his instruments. Is this a danger with most young pilots with limited IFR experience?
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
Ah ok. haha ya SIGMETs are good to read through, same I hear for NOTAMs
Have a good one!
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
Like I said, I’ve had minor stuff happen to me in the past while flying, but most of my “hickups” were pilot errors. Example, not listening to a SIGMET for turbulence and even ignoring PIREPS by 737 pilots reporting moderate turbulence in the area.
All I cared at that time was that there was over 50 m visib, (in LA). Of course I was 18 and still “invincible” at that time. That was the shortest flight I ever did, once around the pattern.
So it is experience, experience, experience..
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
Sorry I wasn’t clear. The three biggest reasons removed still leaves everything else, including errors on the ground, mechanical failures, confusion etc…
My only point in this whole thing was that ATP’s usually don’t make these basic errors that cause a lot of these little plane accidents. That was all, I wasn’t blaming any one or exonerating any one.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
if im correct, what you just said is that those 3 reasons which contribute to small plane accidents 70% of the time, do not apply to airliners, and therefore are removed leaving 30% of airliner accidents related to pilot error?
that’s what i got from that comment and ur previous comment confirms your belief when you said “The airline pilots are a different story, the numbers are almost reversed”
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
By taking these 3 top reasons away from the equation when it comes to airliners is how I got my conclusion. Although not exact, and I have no actual numbers, I’m guessing I’m pretty close to them.
As with any human, we all make mistakes, even the ATP’s.
But you are very correct in saying that experience in flying is the most important factor in human errors.
Happy tailwinds.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
I have had my pilots license long enough and taken a lot of ground school to know that 70% (exact number) of small plane accidents happen for 3 reasons:
1. Flying into questionable weather
2. Running out of fuel, and
3. Flying while intoxicated
the rest of them happen for various reasons.
Those top 3 reasons for crashes usually don’t happen to airline pilots, although in this case they seem the weather was a small factor, but it definitely was human error.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
the actual age of the pilots has hardly any influence on the crash. it has mostly to do with experience on the aircraft, like u said 3 yrs is not a ton.
i don’t know where u get ur facts about airline crashes and small plane crashes and ur numbers because it’s not true. i can’t explain everything here but i’ve taken a handful of human factors courses and im a pilot. in airline crashes there is still a lot of pilot error but they mostly call it human error as ground and other ppl contribute.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
PIlot erroe causes 90% of all crashes in small planes. The airline pilots are a different story, the numbers are almost reversed, this case aside.
Age of the pilots is another issue, both of these guys were in their early 30’s, and even more imporatnt, 3 years experience in a 737.
I’ve been thru too many encounters (when I was younger) to know that my luck has already run out. Right now, I’m running on age and experience. Let’s hope that is enough.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
I care. thnx for your reply. Its never too late
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Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
I know this comment is old, and you probably don’t care I replied to this. but, seriously, something needs to be done about these idiots cursing and swearing. I’m marking that guy as spam.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
I dont think so.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
90% comes down to in experience pilots that cause plane crashes! Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
errare humanum est
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
I am shocked to see ignorant people cursing in their comments over here!! guys! imagine yourself being in an air plane crash, you will stop cursing forever.
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
too bad it wasnt filled with assholes like you….
Jul 15, 2010 at 15:55:24
this is all the fucken pilots fault. What a dumb ass, didn’t turn back when he saw ice on the wings he knew it was going to be risky