Comments on: Colgan Flight 3407 NTSB Animation of Buffalo Accident Q400

By: zzddytt

zzddytt — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

maybe you aren’t willing to work the hours at colgan.

By: ematt310590

ematt310590 — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

I just want to start screaming, “nose down nose down!!!” when they start stalling. Why would you pull up in a stall situation? I mean yes they were at 2300 feet but they had enough room to negate a stall and then recover…

By: EF2000CanFly

EF2000CanFly — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

@b190captain

Hey are you a pilot? What do you fly?

Be nice on this device please

By: b190captain

b190captain — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

mikemoair,

No one gives a shit how much time you have. Maybe the reason you have no job is because you are an asshole.

By: NordDMB87

NordDMB87 — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

this is a not game

By: 123chickstar

123chickstar — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

is this a game or something? :S

By: EF2000CanFly

EF2000CanFly — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

Yeah it was a terrible mistake to raise the flaps eh?

I would bet that had they been left down, between the pusher and the PF trying to keep her level, and the engines screaming at near full power, they would have started to climb at about 500 AGL.

I would like to have seen what would the plane would have done between 2:15 and 2:25 had the flaps been not raised!

By: Kismetjim

Kismetjim — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

mike, I appreciate your frustration. My cousin trained for ATP and then couldn’t land a job. Then went for ATC, and bureaucratically stupidly let go after 2 months for not being comparable with those in his group who’d been there for 6 months. The airline biz is really screwed up. Costs are unclear, safety and responsibility are hidden and passed on, fare wars hitting the crews before the boardroom…

By: Kismetjim

Kismetjim — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

Thank you for mentioning flaps up. From my view, that was the critical mistake. Flaps don’t only drag, they also increase lift and decrease the stall speed. Retracting flaps is basically decreasing wing size.

Being female has nothing to do with it, but, it’s hard to understand why anyone with more than a handful of flight hours would do this with a stall coming on?

Maybe it was the sense that putting them to 10 coincided with the pre-stall warning and then the stall. Instinctual, but mistake?

By: mikemoair

mikemoair — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:37:42 +0000

this is nothing but a clear case of murder by gross incompetence ‘SPELLING SORRY I CANT FIND MY DICTIONARY” but dictionary or not what i say is true,